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What I want to talk about today is whether we are dealing with a program or an experiment

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and by that I will eventually get to alien intentions. Everybody assumes in some way

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that we are dealing with an experiment. The question then is what is the evidence for

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the experiment and I think that we should just sort of begin to look at what sort of

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what we already know in quotes. First of all we know that there is UFO sightings. People

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see UFOs by the past. See lots of them and have been seeing them for a long time now.

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Not only that but they see them around the world. The United States does not have a corner

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on the flying saucer market. This is something that is cross cultural. And the UFO sightings

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essentially are the same. Cynthia Hines who examines UFO sightings and questions and things

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in Africa who describes basically the same thing. As we know in Asia they are basically

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the same sightings. In Latin America they are all the same. The people who see these objects

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are the good, the bad, the ugly. I mean it's all over the board. It's anybody and everybody.

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There is no one type of person who is prone to see a UFO. It's everybody. It's people

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who are shall we say brilliant, who are intellectually challenged. Everybody in the middle. People

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who have no insight whatsoever. People who are remarkably retrospective. In other words

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it's random. At least over the way. And we have millions of people who are witnesses

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and that is not hyperbole. Literally millions. If widespread it's very, very large. It's

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around the world. It's everybody. This I think we know. Well starting about in 1961, actually

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starting in 1957 essentially, we began to hear about the abduction phenomenon. The abduction

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phenomenon started out really slowly. You're basically finding Betty Hill 61 and then in

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the early 1970s you don't hear the S. Paul case in Brazil which happened in 1957. We didn't

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hear about that till 1966 as well. And the interesting thing about the cases that we

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usually heard on, heard of was that they were very few. In part between they were rare.

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They were odd. They were strange. At the same time the people who were having these experiences

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seemed to be random. We couldn't really tell whether there was anything over it. What was

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it about Barney and Betty Hill that caused an abduction to happen to them? Well the way

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that it's known today was there was only one reason. They were in the wrong place at the

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wrong time. I wonder what other reasons would there possibly be. And not only that, but

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Barney and Betty Hill said things that led us to think in the experiment model. That is

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to say they had skin treatments taking place. This is obvious. You're examining the specimens

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here. They asked Barney why his teeth came out. They asked Betty why Barney's teeth came

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out. The hers didn't. They put a meal into Betty's navel and said they were doing a

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pregnancy test. Well all of this was the model for an experiment. This was a basic situation

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where you didn't have a model of there's one. Get them. You know if they're coming out

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they're examining the flora, the fauna. And it seemed to answer the question. And the

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question was why are there UFOs flying around? And early on people talked about well you

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know there's UFOs flying around because of their constant submission or something like

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that. They're reconnoitering. They're examining the flora and the fauna. You know they're

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stripping bark off of trees or picking up leaves and putting them back. And there were reports

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of that in fact. They're digging holes in the dirt and putting them into little containers

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and we got a lot of reports of that. I mean this is all consistent with this idea of an

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experiment. And so when they picked up Barney and Betty you pick up a raccoon. You pick

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up a you know a parakeet. You pick up Barney and Betty. I mean you know but there's

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just a name. Well the fact is though that this began to dominate UFO research and UFO

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research is thinking forever. It still does. It's hard to even think about this phenomenon

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without using that model as I said before. Well the question is then so what? So what

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is all this mean? So why am I even going through this and what does this have to do with the

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experiment model of a program and all the rest of that? Well first of all we know that

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as these go around the world. This is a what I've shown you right here is a universal

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phenomenon. I have worked with people from the West African country of Mali, from India,

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from Romania, from Latin America, from you name it. They all say the same thing. They

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all say it does not matter where they're from. They all describe the same procedures. They

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describe the same instruments. We are at the point literally where when they describe

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certain instruments we now know what those instruments are going to be used for. They may

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not know if they may be just not aware of it at all. But we pretty much know. We know the

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sequence of events that's going to happen around the world. It almost doesn't matter. In other

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words we know when they say A, B, C we know D is coming and they're not going to like

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D. And I have to prepare them in my own hypnosis for D. I've done about 730, 750

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hypnotic regressions over the past couple years and we see a certain routine here obviously.

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Well we also know a couple of other things about the reduction phenomenon. We know that

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it's intergenerational. And she thought by talking about it it's intergenerational.

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I said you didn't think it was all the kids but you know I'll tell you something. I think

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it is all the kids. With abductions from what I can tell and I think of what we're seeing

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everywhere. She said if you have four kids and have that he has four kids all four kids

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will most likely be at that age. Now they may not know it. They may not remember it. And

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therefore it's hard to tell. We can't always know unless we investigate it. But that's

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my guess after investigating many many many many many many cases of this. All the kids

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are abduct D's. So it's intergenerational. Therefore all abduct D's have now two things

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in common. Now those two things in common are number one they're human. Number two their

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mother or their father was an abduct D. This is the intergenerational aspect of it. Now

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this is not just an intergenerational aspect. This is a bombshell aspect as I will explain

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later. This is an aspect that is let's just put it this way. It uses 60's phrases mind

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blowing for what it means for the abduction. We also know something else about the abduction

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phenomenon. We know that it's repetitive. That it happens over and over and over again.

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We used to think as in Barney and Betty Hill it was an adult onset signal event. In fact

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we have never seen an adult onset signal event for a targeted abduction. That simply does

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not come up. So we know and the people who we have worked with become sensitized to what

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is going on with them right away because I have a little questionnaire that I get people

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that tells me essentially what is going on with them and have that these tend to have

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a lifetime filled with unusual events and not have that these tend to have a lifetime filled

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with usual events. Well we know that this happens often that the abduction phenomenon is

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enormously not only widespread but it happens over and over and over again. And the question

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then is well how many times does it happen? We don't know and we can't know and we will

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never know. That is as a given. The only way we can ever know and this is never going to

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happen is by monitoring a person every single minute of the day and night from the time they

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are born to forever. Let's back up to finding saucers to UFOs to the UFO phenomenon itself.

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Now what we have here is sort of one phenomenon but kind of a dual track. We have abduction

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and we have UFOs. They are all part of the same package in my opinion. First of all, what

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we are looking at is a situation of abduction. People are being abducted. Well how does this

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come about? It doesn't just generate out of the ether. Somebody in authority has to say

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let's do it. Somebody has to give the order to move forward. We have completed our tests,

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we have looked them up or whatever it is. Somebody has got to say okay we are going to do it now.

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Now what does that mean? Now I am going to talk strictly logically. What that means is that

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a plan has to be put into place. This has to be planned out. It's not going to be just

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doing it on the fly. They are going to have people sit down and figure out exactly what

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they are going to do and how they are going to do it. That has to be the case. Not only

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that but they must, they absolutely, positively must have the hardware to do this. Now the

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hardware is the object. Every single inside of virtually every UFO that I have ever seen

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is made for the purpose of abduction. What do you mean by made? They have got to design

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them first. Those designs are not going to be good in their first generation or they are

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going to be altered. There has got to be people for beings or gifts or whatever it is working

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on these things. There has got to be people in authority for making the decision to go

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forward with this set of plans rather than that set. When you say, okay, let's do it, we

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are going to go with these, they have got to be manufactured. You are going to have some

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sort of mechanism where these objects can be fashioned, can be made, can be put together.

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That has to be, there has got to be a whole wing of industrial manufacturing to put these

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things together and we know that they have put a lot of them together because we know

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that there are tremendous amounts of UFO sightings and the chances of them being of the same five

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objects over and over again are going to be remote. There is going to be an awful lot of

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objects that have been manufactured for this purpose. Every time a person walks down a hallway,

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when they look at the various rooms that they are walking by on their way to the room that

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they are going into, what do they see in those rooms? Tables, they have got these on them.

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I mean, we are looking at a program that is built in every conceivable way for the idea

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of abducting people for that purpose. Well, the interesting thing is that when they have

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abducted people, they have abducted lots of people. Sure, they abduct them one at a time,

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they are the small group, the small lot, they just didn't move tables, but we see them as well

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with 20 people, 50 people, 100 people, 500 tables in a room with people on them in an

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assembly line fashion. Get them in, do it, get them out, get them on in, do it, get them out.

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Over and over again and we think we are seeing this 24 hours a day, seven days a week,

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week after week, month after month, year after year, decade after decade around the world.

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Well, in order to have all this, you must have a hierarchy of authority. What we see here,

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in fact, on one of these objects is a hierarchy of authority. We see quarter givers and quarter

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takers. We see people who are in authority and we actually see three or sometimes four

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structures of authority. Authority flows downward. There is give and take within this,

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it's not highly rigid, but we do see what this is, this sort of hierarchy of authority.

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So in other words, there must be design, there must be research and development, there must

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be manufacture, there must be implementation and the implementation is the affectionate

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phenomenon. This phenomenon we see has two other aspects to it. It changes over time, I think.

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Now, I know a little bit shaky because I was in my opinion as opposed to what we can know.

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I think that older abduction cases had more machine type of examinations, machine type

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of procedures than we see now. Not only that, but we see absolutely many more abductions

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that are aided by adult hybrids. In fact, in the recent years we've been seeing abductions

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conducted completely by adult hybrids. There's no way it is at all. Well, no, other. Not only

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that, but this is the spreading phenomenon and here comes the bombshell concept. The

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intergenerational aspect of it, this is the frightening one. You see, with an intergenerational

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aspect, what that means is that if you start off with a random population, oh, let's just

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say a hundred years ago, in the 1890s, and I'm one of these researchers who feels that

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the phenomenon goes back to the 1890s and I personally lose sight of it almost completely

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after it, but before that. But if you go back to the 1890s and we have a relative degree

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of certainty with them, the reason we have a relative degree of certainty is because of

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the age of people we have worked with, we're limited by that. In other words, when a person

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does make an endocrine, we know they've got an endocrine symptom, so you have their 65

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years. And if their mother is still alive, then we can question her, although 90-year-old

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people don't go into, or we can also talk a lot about these things, unfortunately. But

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we can also tell some stories in the family about the grandfather or the grandmother or

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the great-grandparents, and sometimes these are clear, abduction accounts. Clear. And we

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can make it back to about the 1890s to around the time, interestingly enough, of the Mr.

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Gershepway in 1896, 1897, the first sort of UFO way of the story. Well, if you start

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off with a random selection of the population, and we do think it is random, what you're

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going to get is, through normal population increase, you're going to get a calm line

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spreading out in the society. That is what I think we see. What we are looking at is

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a program, obviously, a well-thought-out, well-implemented program that has yet one last

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aspect in the near of secrecy that covers it up. And the secrecy basically is there to

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prevent us from knowing what they are doing to us. That's why this is a secret

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program, because it will cover my program. As a program, this has a beginning, a middle,

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and an end, and it is goal-directed. It is not random. It can't be random if, in fact,

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it is not an experiment. It must be goal-directed. It must, therefore, have a beginning and

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middle and an end. So I think that this is ultimately a program of integration into the

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society. The fact is, I think, that the answer to the Paragons's answer by the

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UFO phenomenon, where are they? They are here. And the answer to the other problem of

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how can they have a count colonized is, well, they probably are colonizing. This does

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appear to be an integration or colonization program.